to double down, he's going to have two bibles, one from abraham lincoln and martin luther king. >> well done, but as i said in god we trust, one nation under god out of our constitution, and get rid of it altogether and if you believe what these activists believe, that is that this is bad for our country. but you know, with the president doing the two bibles, mike, i think it's a wonderful thing he's doing it, but if you take the bibles and rip the pages out of them and that's what we're doing in our culture, we still believe in the bible, but nothing that's said within it. it's like a tabernacle with no eucharist, like a church without pews. worship without any liturgy whatsoever and that's what we're doing, we're emptying all of these good things of their meaning and when we do, when we empty them, that topples and-- >> and when you remove god from the equation, again the church is, i mean, rather the state is the final north on everything. there's no appeal beyond the government. and that's what some people want. >> and our founders of our country and the great tradition of the united sta